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Posted - 2014.08.30 07:08:00 -
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Your question is too inaccurate to answer ... but I can help.
For literally every evolving, interactive product with interest in growth ... ... there comes the point when it starts to 'mainstream' ... ... which means that overall quality has to go down ... ... so that the overall amount of participants can increase.
It's easy to understand.
At the beginning, EVE was hard. It had only a small playerbase which enjoyed this fact. As it was hard, it wasn't really something for the wider masses.
Eventually, as you know, the game turned easier. You can call that 'less complicated' ... ... but I can argue about that.
Let's coin it 'complexity'. It's vague enough ... ... but everyone gets the point.
Fact of the matter is that obviously the level of 'complexity' has to go down so the amount of players can increase. Many people do not find time or interest in dealing with a level of 'complexity' above what they can easily manage.
In the beginning, the game was really hard. Now, the game is less 'complex' and has more easy-way-in kind of things to do. Obviously the average IQ decreased as the number of people increased, because the number of easy-way-in things to do went up.
Less 'complexity' means that it's more appealing to more people because there are less people interested in dealing with a higher amount of complexity.
Even easier: As the number of players went up ... ... the average IQ went down ... ... because there are less smart people than dumb people.
Also obviously the smart people who played when 'complexity' was high ... ... are mostly not playing anymore as the level of 'complexity' went down ... ... further lowering the average IQ.
Hey it's still early here and this is the best I can come up with now.
Over time, I have removed enough 'complexity' from this post ... ... to make it easily comprehendable for a wider range of people. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 07:35:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Solecist Project wrote:In the beginning, the game was really hard. Now, the game is less 'complex' and has more easy-way-in kind of things to do. Obviously the average IQ decreased as the number of people increased At the moment the number of people is decreasing if anything. Irrelevant to the point and not comparable to the huge increase over the last ten years.
You are talking short-term, I am talking long-term.
I can argue here that the game got too "less 'complex'" and starts to lose it's appeal ... ... or that the number of "less smart" people increased enough in the last years ... ... that it seemed like the game is growing, but these people don't stay long enough.
There is not enough ground in reality to say anything about this, or I simply lack data to look at this properly.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 07:46:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Sisohiv wrote:Consider BPO distribution. How different would the EVE manufacturing scene be if you had been required to figure out who owns BPO's and if you were required to get standings to obtain those BPO's as they define trade secrets? Well there would be a lot more of grinding NPC content before you got to play the actual game, which is thankfully the opposite of the direction CCP is going in. CCP reduced the grind? Instead of grinding rep for a variety of entities, you can now focus grind LP and ISK in quest hubs but you will grind the same amount. And what ever happened to EVE is hard, HTFU? EVE is m'eh, wait for primary? More easy-way-in things to do which give an enough satisfying reward.
At the bottom of it, I guess we could say that the amount of 'arcade' type of things to do increased. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 08:45:00 -
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Regading to the poster above I can only say ...
If a monkey starts looking into a book ... ... it doesn't mean a genius will come out of it. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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LazyDeer wrote:I read the forums every now and then and all I see is so many players crying about game mechanics. Like ganking haulers and miners, scams in jita, Wardecs being a greifer tool, High sec not safe and more. Thing is, this has been going on all the time, and puzzles me how people can't learn from the past? So is EVE's overall IQ dropping? Equating 'general people' with 'specific persons' makes no sense at all.
So in context of your post ... regarding yourself ... you *might* be right. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 10:26:00 -
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Nick Starkey wrote:It's as low as always, as evidenced by the typical posters in this forum.
It's just that the average percieved IQ is higher in Eve than in so many other games. DunningGÇôKruger effect is strong among most people here. This ...
baltec1 wrote:Its not EVE, it humanity as a whole. idiocracy is now a documentary  ... and this, so much.
Regarding to the upper post there are three famous words to add, which have become a sad reality.
Ignorance is Strength. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 11:08:00 -
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Miko Jin wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Nick Starkey wrote:It's as low as always, as evidenced by the typical posters in this forum.
It's just that the average percieved IQ is higher in Eve than in so many other games. DunningGÇôKruger effect is strong among most people here. This ... baltec1 wrote:Its not EVE, it humanity as a whole. idiocracy is now a documentary  ... and this, so much. Regarding to the upper post there are three famous words to add, which have become a sad reality. Ignorance is Strength. Who said those so called famous words? What you meant to put was "Ignorance is bliss"Dunning-Krueger effect is a real thing. Education. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 11:24:00 -
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Miko Jin wrote:I DON'T GET IT I DON'T GET IT I DON'T GET IT AND PROJECT MY OWN ISSUE ONTO YOU I really like how you are literally unable to understand what I am talking about ... ... and thus will stop conversing with you ... ... as it is pointless to talk with people who suffer from above mentioned effect. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 11:59:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:I think what we are finding is a new class of gamer who wants instant gratification because they are so used to getting it. Many games that are being released now across all platforms bear more resemblance to the arcade games of the 80's and early 90's. We have a generation of players who have been brought up on games on facebook and mobile platforms. Games with the complexity of Eve are a very rare breed these days.
You do not sound like you played any games from back then.
These games were everything else than "instant gratification".
These games were HARD TO BEAT and achievements actually involved SKILL! http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 12:23:00 -
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You don't understand the concept of instant gratification. Instant gratification is about *rewards* and not about *challenges*.
That's why it is called "gratification". That's why Zynga games generally can be categorised as "instant gratification" games.
grind levelup grind grind levelup grind grind grind levelup grind grind grind grind levelup
Arcade games were made hard on purpose. The "drug" was the desire to keep playing *TO* actually beat them.
There was NO instant gratification involved in games back in the 80's and 90's whatsoever.
Please inform yourself properly, because you are way off. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |
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Posted - 2014.08.30 12:29:00 -
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One can say that the modern gaming industry is not about providing challenges, but about providing rewards.
NeuroScience gave the entertainment industry better and better ways of finding out how to make people hooked ... and how to turn off deeper thought so they keep being hooked ... and the best way to do this is to reach out for lower instincts.
Gratification. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 12:47:00 -
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Miko Jin wrote:Google is a wonderful thing but copy and paste does not make you intelligent. I shall just say this, A pseudointellectual will be condescending and make you feel stupid for either not knowing what they know or believing what they say to be true. Now that is true of you!
You can not accept when someone knows more than you and grasps reality better than you.
You keep trying to get a reaction from me that makes you feel better about yourself.
Everyone is free to go through the posting history of the person I quoted.
You even posted in the thread about Sibyyl, even after I noted that I will report your posts and that the thread is about Sibyyl alone.
She is thankfull that I keep an eye on that thread ... ... as she is thankfull for the thread itself ... ... which is a gift to her for everything she has done for me.
You keep trying to make this about me ... ... ignoring that you are simply constantly trying to make it about yourself.
You are unable to deal with me ... ... because I crush your fake sense of superiority.
Instead, you keep projecting your fake sense of superiority onto me.
I will simply hide your posts now.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 12:52:00 -
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Slick Entry wrote:Progression is a reward in itself. Progression is gratifying. Fast progression even more so, especially when the game is hard. I agree partly.
Progression is a reward in itself.
grind levelup grind grind levelup grind grind grind levelup
Fast progression though does not come from challenge, because challenge hinders fast progression.
The harder the challenge becomes, the less gratification is there.
Old games, compared to new games simply kept getting harder and harder, up to the point where they are pretty much unable to beat ... (Space Invaders, for example) ... while Zynga-style games do not actually get more challenging ... ... but instead simply increase the intervals between each gratification.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 13:08:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:sol, you're arguing with npc's, this has (arguably) about as much merit as arguing with your own alt.
Thank you two for your support and display of education and understanding of reality.
Please note that I will keep my tone this way and not ever again let myself get consumed by the contagious hate too many people in GD suffer from and keep spreading onto others.
It even seems that Sibyyl herself has started to show signs of said infection.
Anyhow ... please note that I am trying to educate.
I see mistakes or misunderstandings and provide information for the reader to improve their knowledge or understanding of things.
The fact that many people can not deal with "being educated" ... ... because of their fake self worth and false belief of "knowing it anyway" ... ... is a sad fact, but has nothing to do with me.
Believe me when I tell you that it is only them who keep making it worse for themselves.
Like the one who even came to the yellow-thread.
A perfect example.
She will just keep going on and on and on ... ... unless this very line makes her stop ... ... just to make it seem like I am wrong anyway.
And ... see my post above about said person.
Thank you again for your support and understanding and I hope you will have a nice day/weekend, just like I have.
In my cuddly, warm bed ... listening to the rain outside. (: http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 13:34:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
I can copy and paste random crap of the internet
It is sad to see that you do not believe that other people are able to make up their own thoughts about matters.
As you had to start the post with crap that indicates that you felt attacked ... I will simply refuse to keep conversing with you.
Have a nice day/weekend. :) http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 16:31:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Awaiting with great anticipation.. And the hatred ... ... awaits to be fueled ... ... by even more hatred .......... http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 16:36:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Well, I was happy to have one Lightsaber.
But I saw the bad guys get to have two at the same time..
I do and will always support you ... ... and I see that you too will always support me ...
... but I really have to remind you of yourself, Sibyyl.
Let's do it in your own way ... ... your old way ... ... hopefully my new way ... ... but definitely not in my old way.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:19:00 -
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"Simple reaction time (the amount of time it takes to respond to a stimulus) is correlated with IQ, Woodley said, and not nearly as sensitive to cultural influences as IQ tests."
I can confirm the reduction of reaction time to be true and I do understand why one would make a connection between intelligence and reactiontime.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:22:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:I'll be happy to examine data you might have that correlates reaction time to IQ. That article doesn't contain this data.. Don't avoid me.
Ask me why.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:49:00 -
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I am writing a response, Ralph.
Please wait, it's lengthy. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |
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Posted - 2014.08.30 18:10:00 -
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Proof reading.
Ralph?
I'm almost done. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:52:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Why might this be the case sol? Thank you, for not being blindly consumed by hatred like so many others who simply react to what they read, instead of having deeper thoughts.
Thank you so much for not being consumed by the ego illness that dominates the minds of the people in General Discussions!
I would, btw, like to know how you avoid from being infected! I do feel like that's relevant for the point and others might actually be able to use it for their own good.
Thank you for listening, I will explain!
*breathes in deeply*
This might be a bit longer and I do need to reach out a bit, so I can provide context for your minds to work with.
Please note that I did not and do not feel the need to read this article.
The small TL;DR is ...
The reason why he connects reaction time with intelligence is because the longer the brain has time to process input before a response, the less automatic and pattern based the reaction will be!
I use the "time to process input" mechanic for my erotic roleplaying.
The way I express seperate actions in seperate lines delayed by time gives the reader's mind time to let the written word "sink in", creating a more engaging experience!
I can not show you that on the forums, because there is no time delay between individual lines.
I did, though, show it to quite a few people who might or might not read and respond.
Anyhow ...
What we are talking about ... ... and what is affecting the people of GD ... ... is related to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automaticity
Let's use the computer analogy. It works well enough and everyone grasps it.
So, imagine your brain is a computer.
Yes, this is connected and displays a bit how the mind works.
Do you know the weird thing when you want to remember something, but you can't? It slipped your mind and you can't access the memory.
Though once you stopped thinking about it, your mind eventually digs it out and you suddenly recall.
Everyone eventually has this happen in his life. It is pretty common! But why is this happening?
It is happening, because once one stops searching, (aka giving the command) the "back of the mind" has time to dig out the memory.
You gave the order into your brain ... ... and your brain starts to dig.
When you keep trying to find the memory, then you interrupt the search process.
The key thing here is the fact that the mind works in the back, as long as there is no attention given to the process itself!
The wikipedia article actually talks about this.
Quote:Automaticity can be disrupted by explicit attention when the devotion of conscious attention to the pattern alters the content or timing of that pattern itself.
When one pays explicit attention to finding the memory, the brain is unable to find said memory, because you pay attention to finding it.
The context in the article is different, but the mechanics regarding the interrupt are the same!
Now how is that connected to reaction time and the idea that intelligence is connected to it?
Easy. We can derive from above that the mind is able to disrupt working processes. We issue a command and the mind works it out. If we pay attention to the process, then the mind is being interrupted and can not process!
Specifically in context I want to point out this part:
Quote:But when given the request with what sounds like a reason but isn't, compliance jumped back to 93%. Langer, Chanowitz, and Blank are convinced that most human behavior falls into automatic response patterns.
Now, to close the circle...
The reason why people are compliant, even although it just SOUNDS like a reason but actually isn't, is because of the reaction time!
People who would have given the brain time to let the input be properly processed, would have realised that there was no actual reason given!
Instead, they simply reacted! They heard it, the brain came up with a pattern that fits and the reaction was given.
There are many reasons why people just react mindlessly, but I will point out one example most people directly or indirectly know. It shows how it works.
You know that from verbal fights, most probably, when people start mindlessly throwing words at each other at a faster and faster pace, instead of just listening and letting the input be processed before a response is given!
It ends with people overreacting and slapping others, (or worse, sadly) leading to them regretting it and saying "I did not want to do that!"
But he did! Why? Pattern based behaviour! Automatism! No conscious thought!
There is an observation I have made years ago.
The shorter the reaction time, the stronger the automatism.
It is easily noticeable who actually puts proper thought into a conversation simply by observing how long the person takes to respond to input.
It is also recogniseable when a person actually thinks about what is told to him, compared to a person who does not.
THE BIG TL;DR:
The reason why one could assume that reaction time and intellect are connected, is because the longer one thinks about something, the less stupid the response will be!
Case in point: GENERAL DISCUSSION!
The reason why there is so much hatred on the forums, and barely any conscious thought, is because people react to the negativity!
They read something that offends their egos, like someone who says something that's "factually wrong" or "stupid" and they immediately start typing!
No actual thought, just a reaction based on patterns, filled with the negativity of the input!
And then there's the fact that... http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:53:00 -
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Proof of point: No one in his right, conscious mind would deliberately, actively, purposefully want to keep spreading all this hatred!
Yet it keeps on happening!
Does anyone really, honestly want to assume that all of these people are consciously driven by hatred and WANT to spread said hatred willingly and consciously? http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:55:00 -
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Oh btw ...
... for anyone wanting to read something interesting about people consciously using their brain's mechanics ...
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/who_wants_to_be_a_cognitive_neuroscientist_millionaire/ http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:12:00 -
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I feel the need to add that the "time to let input be processed" also applies to reading.
Each sentence. Each word.
To quote myself ...
Every word is a note ... ... every sentence a melody.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:00:00 -
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I feel like DJ's reply actually has nothing to do with my post ... ... and when people start replying to his opinion ... ... they are completely missing the point.
DJ missed it as well. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:17:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote: cut for space I do not read that article, because I do not agree with what is considered "intelligence".
I do not consider people intelligent, who are so unaware of themselves, that they fall into long periods of automatic, pattern based behaviour.
People who keep responding to each others posts over and over again, for example. Like the people who mindlessly fight, until one slaps the other.
"Intelligence" is the wrong word.
Personally, I would call it lack of self awareness. And in my personal context, that makes a person pretty stupid.
That's an opinion that does not necessarily mean someone is stupid all the time, but I do tend to consider people who lack proper awareness levels to lack intelligence.
And I do realise it's not intelligence in the sense people usually mean.
I have reasons.
Anyhow ...
Why?
Because the person is unable to form a conscious thought. Is unable to process anything that does not fit the saved mental patterns. Is completely locked up in what he believes is true. Rejects anything that is trying to be said, because it does not fit the saved mental patterns.
I do believe that my post was born rather out of a need to express wtf is going on, than to actually talk about some irrelevant article that does not help anyone learn anything about themselves.
If my post even only made a single person more aware of itself, then it was a success.
It definitely made *one* person so far more aware about *me*, which is a personal win I did not actually expect. Not in the slightest.
If I consider what people seem to think is "intellect" then that would mean that a person can be intelligent even when it's a person that does not have any conscious thought at all and simply behaves like a mindless robot.
No?
Oh btw, simply calling it a "knee-jerk reaction" is also missing the point. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:31:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote: "Intelligence" and IQ are two different concepts, and people incorrectly treat them as synonyms. Mixing intelligence and IQ is a mistake the OP has already made.
We could debate all day about what "intelligence" means, since it is an extremely subjective word. Is it social intelligence? Business intelligence? Ability to play chess? Ability to play Starcraft? It opens the question to an endless amount of criteria.
IQ, on the other hand is a fairly standardized test, measuring very specific aspects of cognitive processing.
I personally would be very cautious about debating intelligence. I think it is too subjective and too general of a topic to expect any real agreement.
I agree with the lack of real agreement about what "intelligence" means.
I do believe though, that it is important to have a term for this.
"Lack of self awareness" actually hits it nails on ...
... and I am still waiting for someone to realise. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:35:00 -
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Thank you for your post!
And I am not getting disected, chewed, and spit out by you!
Yay! :D http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |

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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:44:00 -
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Still waiting for someone with a proper awareness level.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarlacc ... see below) http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Mew Age Calendar YC116.08.27 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=369961 |
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:19:00 -
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Tassin en Lone wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Still waiting for someone with a proper awareness level. I'm aware that the above comment is a tad condescending. That's not my fault.
That's an issue you have with yourself.
The problem is that people are not aware of this, which makes them believe that I somehow look down onto them.
That is simply not the case, no matter if you believe it or not.
It is far more often not the case than most people would believe ... ... or would want to believe.
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:33:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Note to self: Mention IQ in thread title, watch all the ugliest fish ambush the tasteless bait. Oh, and Sol, could you not? Pretty sure you're not trolling so it seems your fedora has eaten your brain. No more books, please, no more. What are you talking about?
I do not cite or talk out of books.
I link to things from the internet to save time ... ... and/or to try to make it easier for people to understand ... ... or try to help myself explain things.
It was Tippia who posted a book.
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:13:00 -
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It's nice of you , miko, that you keep following me around.
your posts already got deleted from the yellow-thread i have already petitioned you.
it's nice that you put so much attention into me, and i enjoy knowing that you pointlessly try to make your weak mind feel better.
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